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02/22/19 11:08 AM #4827    

 

Michael McLeod

I appreciate the level-headed sentiment and the wise advice, John.

 

And I can't find the mispelled word. Assuming you're not just pulling our collective leg.


02/22/19 12:16 PM #4828    

 

David Mitchell

Dammit John,

You must realize how these other sources are going to cut into my time delving "deep" into The National Enquirer! 

Yet you persist.


02/22/19 12:27 PM #4829    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

John, John, John, did you have to put that dig about President Trump into your post? And just when we were discussing hugs!!

So, which socialist are you supporting to replace him? 🤔

Jim 🤗

02/22/19 12:42 PM #4830    

 

Michael McLeod

(deep sigh, conveying a cross between despair and resignation)


02/22/19 01:43 PM #4831    

Mary Clare Hummer (Bauer)

John,

The liberal Hummers have spelled the name of the right wing party using your misspelling among ourselves since the days of Nixon!! Our not-so-liberal sibs never seem to appreciate it much!

Clare

 


02/22/19 02:14 PM #4832    

 

Donna Kelley (Velazquez)

Mike, I live in a country of huggers.  For a woman the usual informal greeting among friends and even acquantainces (male and female) is a hug and a light kiss on each cheek.  It is often the greeting on being introduced to someone for the first time by a mutual friend.  Obviously this is not the case in a professional situation although with time it is often the way I am greeted by clients (Spanish and expats).  By the end of the day you can come up with quite a tally of hugs, which is rather nice.  Big hug, D


02/22/19 02:27 PM #4833    

 

David Mitchell

 

David,

Loved the article on "Greatness" vs."Good Enough". So insightful! It causes me to consider that I agree, and at the same time, disagree with his point.

We see this "good enough" everywhere around us - people simply doing their best to get by. From all levels of the social/economic spectrum - the great masses, going about their business of living, working, and making ends meet. It is routine sometimes to the point of boredom, but it goes on because it has to. Nothing appears to be so great. And yet there is something noble and great about this "good enough" effort. 

But his definition seems maybe to lean toward certain types of greatness. Perhaps, political or military "greatness", or maybe economic "greatness". Or social or entertainment "greatness". Maybe technological "greatness". I mean like who among us going to go to discover the cure for cancer, or go to the moon?  (Surely not me - Sister Mary would throw another fit! ).

We are being fed a steady diet of forms of greatness that I think are misguided-  "winning" in politics, in athletics, in financial markets, in entertainment notoriety. In the economic term "zero sum", winning means someone else loses. Sound famiiar?  (NOTE: I doubt either political party can escape blame here)

But what about humankind "greatness" - like say,  a Florence Nightingale, a Martin Luther King, a Vincent dePaul, a Mother Teresa, or Christ himself. Christ never achieved greatness in this worldy definition. He had no education, no property, no political power. He never won the lottery or even had a hit record, Yet His greatness is epic !

The example of the "servant leader" concept is everywhere in our midst - even in the "good enough" world. A single mom, with three jobs raising three kids - a disabled veteran who volunteers at the homeless shelter. (sort'a reminds me of Tom Litzinger as the night nurse at the homeless shelter over in the "bottoms" on the near west side years ago - or a Margie Davis and her many volunteer roles in some of the bottom-rung places in this hemisphere).

A great example of the "good enough" that elevates to "great" would be the "ordinary"  young man who's memory created the order of the "Red Bandana"Welles Crowther was a young stock trader in a very high floor of one of the twin towers. When the planes hit, he put on a red bandana that he had carried since boyhood (and wore on the Boston college LcCrosse team). With the bandana over his mouth, he called out to the crowd huddling in the 78th floor lobby, "follow me, I know the way out". He made repeated trips down 17 floors to where they could see through the smoke and continue on their own - and went back up to lead another group down. He carried one elderly lady who had trouble on the stairs on his back 17 floors to that lower floor. (I don't know if she made it lower). 

At one of my MMFC retreats lst year, we used a prayer theme based on the "red bandana". That HE wears a red bandana, and if we can "follow HIM", HE knows the "WAY OUT".

Throughout the ages, so many people have discoverd the joy, the freedom, the "greatness" of helping, lifting, feeding, or just being there for others before settling for our own selfish "good enough". 

But I guess it goes back to my originall point, how do we define "greatness"? I suspect the "good enough" life is chock full of greatness - struggling along in the margins of our society, unseen and unrecognized by many of us.




02/22/19 02:36 PM #4834    

 

David Mitchell

Footnote: Welles called his mother right after the plane crashed into the building to tell her he was okay.

 

I hope the story was "good enough" to inspire your day. 


02/22/19 04:44 PM #4835    

 

John Jackson

Mike, thanks for the kind words. Regarding the misspelling, how do you feel about being pubic-spirited?

Mary Clare, how brave you are to embrace the term ‘liberal’ after all the demonization by Fox News and others.  After 20 years of conservatives bloodying each other as they fight over who is the most right-wing, it’s good to see the word “liberal” creeping ever so slowly back into use.

And, Jim, I’m for the socialists who want to socialize our health care system - our current system is by far the most expensive and has the poorest outcomes in the developed world.  I’m not for free college for all (any additional aid for tuition should be means-tested).  And a guaranteed government job for all sounds like a boondoggle to me.


02/22/19 10:11 PM #4836    

 

David Mitchell

David,

I almost missed your post of the article about "feminism and Nuns". 

Golly, it might be the best of the three you have posted. Sure wish my grandkids could get a dose of that. 

p.s. Wish I could have too. Those nuns sounded a bit different from (some of) ours.


02/22/19 11:06 PM #4837    

 

David Barbour

Thank God for John Jackson, he  counter balances the Davids and honors our over worked nuns.


02/23/19 01:19 AM #4838    

 

David Mitchell

Something tells me John has some extra insight about nuns. 

 

And boy do I have a small world story about Our Lady of Peace's own Doctor (Sister) Elizabeth Jackson, M.D. and OP

It's a bit on the serious side - maybe for later. And I do mean "small world".


02/23/19 04:11 PM #4839    

 

David Mitchell

Okay then,,,I guess this is later. 

And unacustomed as you all know I am to posting stories on this Forum,, here is a small world story about a (former) nun that I met.

To set the scene, I grew up with a fairly close connection with my school buddy John Jackson and his family. We shared a classroom, a stamp club, our first trip to a major league game in Cleveland with our dad's (Herb Score pitched against Whitey Ford !), grade-school basketball team, and many good conversations walking home from school (every damn day for 8 years!) up East Schreyer Place with Tom Litzinger. Some of those conversations were epic - often about the recent episode of "You Asked For It", "The Ed Sullivan Show", the latest hits on WCOL, or (as I mentioned once before) serious topics like Lucas and Havlicek, or serving Mass with Father Foley.

But John and I both shared something even more serious in common - the daunting task of helping our parents raise two older sisters. Now John's older sisters suffered from the same academic deficiencies as John did. I doubt seriously if any of the three, Liz, Anne, or John ever got a mere "A" in school. They had to suffer through a life of nothing but straight "A+'s" in every subject they took. 

I know what you are thinking - It's Sad.

(and I still have questions about how Mike Yarborough was our Valadictorian instead of John Jackson or Jeanine, or Theresa Zeyen or Steve Hodges??? - - to borrow a phrase we'll be hearing from Hollywood after tomorrow night - could the 'Acadamy' be rigged?)

And John's oldest sister Liz (friend and classmate - at OLP and St. Mary's of the Springs - with my middle sister Jeanie)  was especially challenged. She became a Dominican Nun and from there only managed to graduate Medical School. Then later she became a rather renowned psychiarist, running (if I recall correctly) a special mental hospital near Boston for Priests and Nuns with psychiatric issues. Years later I heard she had left the convent and that hospital, and her life found its way back to Columbus, doing, I knew not what. *(John, feel free to correct my facts - or my spelling)

Fast forward.

In 1984, still in Denver, I had contracted a lung conditon (sarcoidosis), which has no cure but is (or was) not terribly serious if you are a female of any color, or white male. But black men, not so good. Bernie Mack (black comedian) died of it as do may black men. We had moved back to Columbus a few years later and I was visiting a little OSU out patient clinic up near Henderson and Reed Road. My Sarcoidosis was acting up and this freindly young Korean Ameriacn OSU doctor was examining me. He was saying, "We'll have to take new X-rays and we need this test and,,,, I said, "Hold on there, I can't pay for any of this." He aked if I had any insurance and I said "No". Then he asked, "Are you by any chance a Veteran"? I said "Yes. Why do you ask?" And then he explained that could go to the VA clinic near downtown and get all this for free. Something I had never considered.

I said "Isn't that for poor old homeless guys with beards (which I wore myself in Denver for several years)  and emboidered baseball caps?" He said that it was not and that he highly reccommended it, and restated that I needed to get some of this stuff done soon, regardless. 

I thought about it for about a week and then called the VA office. they told me to bring iin my "DD-214" (the one-page military service record that serves for every VA benfit you migh ever apply for). I went down to the "Chalmers Wylie (spelling?) VA Health Center" and walked in late one Friday afternoon. Almost a vacant lobby at that time of day on a Friday. The male nurse at the desk asked for rmy paperwork and told me to wait. When he came back out to me he explained that my application would be filed and they would send me a notice soon when I was officialy "in the system" and could begin to make appointments. But then he caught me of guard with a question. "Would you like to see anyone up in "mental health while you are here?"  Slighty offended, I shot back "mental health - what on earth for?"  He explained that they are required to ask that and suggested I might go up stairs and just make contact with someone "as long as you're already here."

Something inside me told me to go ahead. I got off the 4th floor elevator and found a nurse who told me there was only one member fo the staff still there but she would go check for me. She came back and led me around into an office where a lady Doctor in a white coat (so familar from my days tagging behind Dad at his office or the clinic at OSU Hospital). (Finish the sentence Dave. - sat at her desk.) I sat opposite her at her desk and she began to interview me.  

Let me state here that although I cannot remember a name for 5 minutes, I usually recall a face, and almost never forget a voice. As the doctor spoke I began to feel something odd, something strangely familiar about this woman. It was her voice mostly, but the face also seemed,,, well after a minute or two I glanced at her name tag, which read;  "Elizabeth Jackson M.D."  

I nearly jumped out of my chair and blurted out "Liz! It's me, Dave Mitchell, John's school buddy!" 

She immedaitely responded "Oh my Gosh yes! David how wonderful to see you!  

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Forgive me but now this gets a bit personal - but I believe, worth sharing

We spent a several minutes catching up a few personal details but she wanted to continue to interview me as she had to leave shortly. She got a thumbnail sketch of my military history, actually going deeper into my experience than anyone had ever done - all in ablut 20 minutes. I had never allowed myself to open up to any one like this before (except Mary), and I was feeling a bit nervous. But I knew this was someone I could trust. My uneasiness must have shown, because she said something that was the beginning of a change in my life that was by then, long overdue.

She stared at me and said in a rather firm voice, "David, I can see that you are in trouble and you need to get back in here as soon as possible. I can't be the one to see you, but I will schedule you with someone who will be able to help you. But you have to promise me you'll come back."  I did so and it was a very helpful beginning. Just a week later, was 9-1-1, and I started having some terrible "reactions". I went "running" back into that clinic a day or so after 9-1-1 and walked into a jam packed lobby full of men - including those "old guys with beards and embroidered baseball caps". As I walked into that 4th floor lobby, Doctor Liz walked through the crowd and saw me. She came over to me and said, "David, I'm so glad you came. She then turned half way and gestured with her arm as if to point out the crowd of people, and said, "See, they are all "your guys"  - meaning Vietnam Vets - an d all having "reactions" from 9-1-1. This was the beginning of something helpful in my life.

-------------------------

A few years later I moved to Bluffton and it took me 14 months to get my records transferred to the VA hospital in Charlseton, SC - the mother ship to about six states in this region of the VA system. This area is just so loaded with Veterans and they are always behind. But I began to see a young girl psychiatrist (younger than my own kids) who had a very familiar pair of certificates on her wall. One said she was graduate of THEE Ohio State University undergrad, and the other said she was a graduate of THEE Ohio State University Medical School.  I tell ya, they are everywhere down here!

And for my lung thing, I have become a good friend to my young VA "primary care" doctor who is a young Yugoslav immigrant with a Korean wife - a super nice and intersting guy about my kids age. And he is going through a renewal of his own Christian faith - while working to convert his dad, a former Communist party officer in Yugslavia (now lliving in New Jersey), who is not buying this "Jesus stuff" from his own son.

Ain't it a fascinatin" world?


02/23/19 08:07 PM #4840    

 

Mark Schweickart

Dave – quite a story, and well worth sharing. Who knew you, Jackson, and Litzinger were into The Ed Sullivan Show? Sorry, I am just being a snide, smart-ass. Clearly that was not my take-away from this very personal and poignant reminiscence.Thank you for taking the time to write this up for us.

Your comments about the Viet Nam Vets with the embroidered baseball caps, straggly beards, and mental health issues reminded me of a song i wrote a long time ago about an encounter with such a character.

Always a chance for a nugget of truth to be hidden in the ramble.




02/23/19 10:22 PM #4841    

 

David Mitchell

Thanks Mark. Really interesting words to your song.

p.s. We are not all bearded guys with embroidered baseball caps. 

 

But I thought of a question after I wrote this. Who did choose our class valedictorian?

Did we?  The nuns?  The Monsignor?


02/23/19 10:25 PM #4842    

 

James Hamilton, M. D.

Folks,

Reminder - this coming Wed 27 Feb - take your cellphone or camera outside with you and capture a shot of something in your environment, close to home or away from home, between sunrise and sunset. It could be a weather shot, a building, your backyard, a park, a statue or anything. Post it on this Forum on 28 Feb with a brief description of what and where. Maybe something you pass by every day or so, or an interesting tree, hill, street, whatever!

Refer to my post #4805 where I first mentioned this.

Probably should limit it to 1-3 pictures per person so we don't get overwhelmed.

Hope a lot of you participate!

Jim

02/23/19 10:38 PM #4843    

 

David Mitchell

Thanks Mark. Really interesting words to your song.

p.s. We are not all bearded guys with embroidered baseball caps. 

 

But I thought of a question after I wrote this. Who did choose our class valedictorian?

Did we?  The nuns?  The Monsignor?


02/23/19 11:24 PM #4844    

 

John Jackson

Dave, thanks for your story about your encounter with my sister Liz which you have told me about only fragmentarily in the past.  With your permission, I’ll pass it on to her.  As I think you know, she has rejoined the Dominicans after a 30 year hiatus.  She’s now in Michigan helping out at a Dominican senior care facility 30 or so miles north of Detroit.

Thanks also for your kind comments about the Jackson family, but I have to say it’s not enough to get you back into my good graces after you outed me in a previous post for supporting Nixon over Kennedy in the 1960 election.


02/24/19 12:16 AM #4845    

 

Michael McLeod

John: as far as being pubic spirited, I really don't have much choice in the matter. But it was clever of you and I missed it completely. (Which is redundant. You either miss something or you don't.)


02/24/19 05:04 AM #4846    

 

David Mitchell

For Pete's sake John, there you go again - - fragmentarily"?  Confound it!  I'm still trying to get over Tim's "conundrum".

I apologize for leaking the Nixon / Lodge campaign butttons story. But I'm not backing down on the stuff about "You Asked For It".

 

On a serious note - yes I did know about Liz's return to the order. And since you had informed me of that a while back, I stopped by the Dominican Residence hall at Ohio Dominican campus last summer to see if she was in. They told me she commutes from Michigan to Columbus from time to time, helping out at both locations - she's still such a slacker!

I left her some reading material (from two local Hilton Head articles) about a kid she used to know, flying lazy circles in a helicopter around the "Delta". 

 


02/24/19 09:54 AM #4847    

 

John Jackson

Mike, after I wrote that piece I knew it was kind of preachy and needed a little something to liven it up.  As I looked for a word to misspell, “public” just leaped off the page and, although this is a devout group, I couldn’t resist  the temptation.  However, after coining the term, I found the concept elusive and I’m indebted to you for helping us tease out its meaning.  

And, Dave, I’ve decided not to cross you - like Michael Cohen, you do indeed know where all the bodies are buried.

 


02/24/19 03:36 PM #4848    

 

Timothy Lavelle

"Dinner plate" sized snow flakes this morning.


02/24/19 03:50 PM #4849    

Lawrence Foster

Mike McLeod posted/shared this item to me on my Facebook timeline and I am going to share it here.  I have been out of sight and lurking for a while.  Foot surgery recovery is going slow but better.  I am able to get in the water now and last week I started back swimming laps and doing my deep water aerobics.  Yep, being inactive for 2 months takes a toll!     


02/24/19 04:30 PM #4850    

 

Michael McLeod

thanks Larry. Hope you are back in the swim/on your feet soon.

I'll always connect Schultz with the sweetness of childhood. He was the Mister Rogers of the funny papers.  

Oh, and John: can you spot the mispelled word -- one that spellcheck could not have bailed him out on, even if he'd had it at the time --  in his letter?

The letter, by the way, was stashed somewhere and just recently rediscovered. 


02/24/19 05:12 PM #4851    

Mary Clare Hummer (Bauer)

Too easy, Mike; he used “then” instead of “than”. I missed the background on the letter, though. Is this to a Joel we should know or just highlighting Schultz’s comments?  How did you come into possession?  The date had me thinking back to the events that would provoke his comments in 1970 and, of course, recognizing that he could write that same letter today. 

Clare


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